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    <front>
        <journal-meta>
            <journal-id journal-id-type="pmc">F1000Research</journal-id>
            <journal-title-group>
                <journal-title>F1000Research</journal-title>
            </journal-title-group>
            <issn pub-type="epub">2046-1402</issn>
            <publisher>
                <publisher-name>F1000 Research Limited</publisher-name>
                <publisher-loc>London, UK</publisher-loc>
            </publisher>
        </journal-meta>
        <article-meta>
            <article-id pub-id-type="doi">10.12688/f1000research.8993.1</article-id>
            <article-categories>
                <subj-group subj-group-type="heading">
                    <subject>Research Article</subject>
                </subj-group>
                <subj-group>
                    <subject>Articles</subject>
                    <subj-group>
                        <subject>Hemodynamics, Vasc. Biology &amp; Hypertension Sec. to Kidney Dis.</subject>
                    </subj-group>
                    <subj-group>
                        <subject>Stones &amp; Endourology</subject>
                    </subj-group>
                </subj-group>
            </article-categories>
            <title-group>
                <article-title>Blood loss predictive factors and transfusion practice during percutaneous nephrolithotomy of kidney stones: a prospective study</article-title>
                <fn-group content-type="pub-status">
                    <fn>
                        <p>[version 1; peer review: 1 approved, 2 approved with reservations]</p>
                    </fn>
                </fn-group>
            </title-group>
            <contrib-group>
                <contrib contrib-type="author" corresp="yes">
                    <name>
                        <surname>Syahputra</surname>
                        <given-names>Firtantyo Adi</given-names>
                    </name>
                    <xref ref-type="corresp" rid="c1">a</xref>
                    <xref ref-type="aff" rid="a1">1</xref>
                </contrib>
                <contrib contrib-type="author" corresp="yes">
                    <name>
                        <surname>Birowo</surname>
                        <given-names>Ponco</given-names>
                    </name>
                    <xref ref-type="corresp" rid="c2">b</xref>
                    <xref ref-type="aff" rid="a1">1</xref>
                </contrib>
                <contrib contrib-type="author" corresp="no">
                    <name>
                        <surname>Rasyid</surname>
                        <given-names>Nur</given-names>
                    </name>
                    <uri content-type="orcid">https://orcid.org/0000-0003-4473-755X</uri>
                    <xref ref-type="aff" rid="a1">1</xref>
                </contrib>
                <contrib contrib-type="author" corresp="no">
                    <name>
                        <surname>Matondang</surname>
                        <given-names>Faisal Abdi</given-names>
                    </name>
                    <xref ref-type="aff" rid="a1">1</xref>
                </contrib>
                <contrib contrib-type="author" corresp="no">
                    <name>
                        <surname>Noviandrini</surname>
                        <given-names>Endrika</given-names>
                    </name>
                    <xref ref-type="aff" rid="a1">1</xref>
                </contrib>
                <contrib contrib-type="author" corresp="no">
                    <name>
                        <surname>Huseini</surname>
                        <given-names>Maruto Harjanggi</given-names>
                    </name>
                    <xref ref-type="aff" rid="a1">1</xref>
                </contrib>
                <aff id="a1">
                    <label>1</label>Department of Urology, Cipto Mangunkusumo Hospital, faculty of Medicine, Jakarta, 10430, Indonesia</aff>
            </contrib-group>
            <author-notes>
                <corresp id="c1">
                    <label>a</label>
                    <email xlink:href="mailto:dokter.tio@gmail.com">dokter.tio@gmail.com</email>
                </corresp>
                <corresp id="c2">
                    <label>b</label>
                    <email xlink:href="mailto:ponco.birowo61@ui.ac.id">ponco.birowo61@ui.ac.id</email>
                </corresp>
                <fn fn-type="con">
                    <p>FAS - study concepts, design of study, data acquisition, data interpretation, statistical analysis, manuscript preparation. PB - study concepts, design of study, manuscript review, funds collection. NR - design of study, manuscript review, funds collection. FAM - literature research, data acquisition. EN - manuscript editing. MHH - manuscript editing. All authors have agreed to publish this final manuscript.</p>
                </fn>
                <fn fn-type="conflict">
                    <p>
                        <bold>Competing interests: </bold>No competing interests were disclosed.</p>
                </fn>
            </author-notes>
            <pub-date pub-type="epub">
                <day>30</day>
                <month>6</month>
                <year>2016</year>
            </pub-date>
            <pub-date pub-type="collection">
                <year>2016</year>
            </pub-date>
            <volume>5</volume>
            <elocation-id>1550</elocation-id>
            <history>
                <date date-type="accepted">
                    <day>28</day>
                    <month>6</month>
                    <year>2016</year>
                </date>
            </history>
            <permissions>
                <copyright-statement>Copyright: &#x00a9; 2016 Syahputra FA et al.</copyright-statement>
                <copyright-year>2016</copyright-year>
                <license xlink:href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/">
                    <license-p>This is an open access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution Licence, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original work is properly cited.</license-p>
                </license>
            </permissions>
            <self-uri content-type="pdf" xlink:href="https://f1000research.com/articles/5-1550/pdf"/>
            <abstract>
                <p>
                    <bold>Objectives</bold> Bleeding is the most common complication of percutaneous nephrolithotomy (PCNL). Injudicious transfusion is frequently performed in current practice, even though it is not always needed. This study aimed to identify the predictive factors of blood loss in the PCNL procedure and evaluate the perioperative transfusion practice.</p>
                <p>
                    <bold>Methods</bold> A prospective study of PCNL was randomly performed by two consultants of endo-urology at our institution. The inclusion criteria were adults with kidney pelvic stones &gt;20 mm or stone in inferior calyx &gt;10 mm or staghorn stone. Those with coagulopathy, under anti-coagulant treatment or open conversion were excluded. A full blood count was taken at baseline and during 12, 24, 36, 72-hours post-operatively. Factors such as stone burden, sex, body surface area, shifting of hematocrit level and amount of blood transfused were analyzed statistically using line regression to identify the predictive factors of total blood loss (TBL).</p>
                <p>
                    <bold>Results</bold> Eighty-five patients were enrolled in this study. Mean TBL was 560.92 &#x00b1; 428.43 mL for both endo-urology surgeons. Stone burden was the most influential factor for TBL (p=0.037). Our results revealed that TBL (mL) = -153.379 + 0.229 &#x00d7; stone burden (mm
                    <sup>2</sup>) + 0.203 &#x00d7; baseline serum hematocrit (%); thus considerably predicted the need for blood transfusion. A total of 87.1% patients did not receive perioperative transfusion, 3.5% received intra-operative transfusion, 7.1% received post-operative transfusion, 23% had both intra and post-operative transfusion, resulting in a cross-matched transfusion ratio of 7.72. Mean perioperative blood transfused was 356.00 &#x00b1; 145.88 mL.</p>
                <p>
                    <bold>Conclusions</bold> Stone burden is the most influential factor for blood loss during PCNL procedure. The amount of blood transfused and cross-matched was relatively high. An appropriate blood order using our equation would reduce any unnecessary transfusions.</p>
            </abstract>
            <kwd-group kwd-group-type="author">
                <kwd>Bleeding</kwd>
                <kwd>nephrolithiasis</kwd>
                <kwd>PCNL</kwd>
                <kwd>transfusion</kwd>
            </kwd-group>
            <funding-group>
                <funding-statement>Cipto Mangunkusumo Hospital Operational Research Grant 2013 funded this research.</funding-statement>
                <funding-statement>
                    <italic>The funders had no role in study design, data collection and analysis, decision to publish, or preparation of the manuscript.</italic>
                </funding-statement>
            </funding-group>
        </article-meta>
    </front>
    <body>
        <sec sec-type="intro">
            <title>Introduction</title>
            <p>Kidney stones prove to be a common affliction in many countries worldwide because of high incidence and prevalence. In America, kidney stone incidence was found in 116 out of 100,000 individuals
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-1">1</xref>
                </sup>. A higher incidence was discovered in the German population aged 14 years and older, amounting to 720 out of 100,000 individuals
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-2">2</xref>
                </sup>. An excessively high number of cases was found in Asian countries, namely, 114.3 per 100,000 in Japan, while Iranian urolithiasis incidence was assessed at 145.1 in 2005
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-3">3</xref>
                </sup>. A global increase in kidney stone cases was determined in individuals of all ages, sex, and races
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-4">4</xref>
                </sup>. In our institution we have, to date, treated an increasing number of kidney stone patients, from 182 in 1997 to 847 in 2002
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-5">5</xref>
                </sup>.
			</p>
            <p>Percutaneous nephrolithotomy (PCNL) is a urological minimally-invasive procedure to extract kidney stones by means of percutaneous access
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-6">6</xref>
                </sup>. Nowadays, PCNL is widely accepted to treat those complex kidney stone cases that are hard in consistency, of a large size, infected, obstructed with anatomical abnormalities, generally cases that could not be treated by other modalities
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-7">7</xref>
                </sup>. In European guidelines, PCNL is favoured as the treatment of choice for calyx and pelvic stones &gt;20 mm
                <sup>2</sup>
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-8">8</xref>
                </sup>. For stones &gt;20 mm, PCNL demonstrated a stone-free rate up to 78&#x2013;95%
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-9">9</xref>
                </sup>. There has been a decrease in open surgery number in our institution during 2001&#x2013;2009, whereby the PCNL procedure has become more frequent
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-10">10</xref>
                </sup>.
			</p>
            <p>One of the most bothersome complications of PCNL is hemorrhage. Direct access to the pelvicalyceal system and intrarenal manipulation during PCNL procedures cause injury to the renal vasculature, particularly to the segmental and interlobar arteries. The renal-collecting system is rich in vascularization, covering 20% of the total cardiac output, and often results in hemorrhage during PCNL
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-11">11</xref>
                </sup>. The high percentage of blood loss and the necessity of transfusion often results in the erroneous management of hemorrhage during the PCNL procedure.</p>
            <p>It has been reported that 1&#x2013;11% of patients who underwent PCNL required blood transfusion; a higher transfusion rate, 2&#x2013;53% was determined in the staghorn cases
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-11">11</xref>
                </sup>. Previous studies describe many hemorrhage risk factors during PCNL, such as, age
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-12">12</xref>
                </sup>, pre-operative urinary tract infections
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-12">12</xref>
                </sup>, large stones (exceeding 1250 mm
                <sup>2</sup>)
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-13">13</xref>
                </sup>, staghorn calculi
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-13">13</xref>,
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-14">14</xref>
                </sup>, multiple access
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-11">11</xref>,
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-13">13</xref>,
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-14">14</xref>
                </sup>, diabetes mellitus
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-11">11</xref>,
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-13">13</xref>,
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-15">15</xref>
                </sup>, prolonged surgery time
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-11">11</xref>&#x2013;
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-13">13</xref>
                </sup> and stone composition
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-13">13</xref>
                </sup>. Other risk factors have been postulated: i.e. stone location, pre-operative hemoglobin, hydronephrosis grade, renal parenchymal thickness, however, to date, have not yet been proven. Many of the hemorrhage cases during PCNL could be managed conservatively, however, 0.8% patients required a more invasive procedure to deal with the bleeding
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-14">14</xref>
                </sup>.
			</p>
            <p>To date there are no specific data available to determine the blood transfusion requirement during PCNL procedures. In our institution, blood units are requested pre-operatively according to clinical estimation. However, this does not always concede to the intra-operative blood loss. This study was aimed at predicting the amount of blood loss during PCNL by identifying the pre-operative factors that could possibly lead to a lower morbidity rate.</p>
        </sec>
        <sec sec-type="materials | methods">
            <title>Materials and methods</title>
            <p>The present study includes patients who underwent percutaneous nephrolithotomy procedure in our hospital from October 2012 to October 2013. Adult patients (&#x2265;18 years old) with pelvic stones &gt;20 mm, inferior calyx stones &gt;10 mm or staghorn stones who agreed to enroll by written informed consent were included in this study. Those with coagulopathy, under anti-coagulant treatment or conversion to open procedure were excluded.</p>
            <p>Patients were admitted the day prior to procedure. Stone burden was assessed pre-operatively by multiplying sum of length and width by means of imaging. The PCNL was randomly performed under spinal anesthesia by two endo-urology consultants. The patient was placed in prone position, access gained to pelvicalyceal system with fluoroscopic guidance, followed by dilatation using a metal and fascia dilator before application of sheath. The number and location of punctures were decided intra-operatively, based on pelvicalyceal system. We used pneumatic lithotripsy to break the stone which was subsequently extracted by forceps or grasper. The procedure was completed when the patient was stone-free and any arising complications alleviated.</p>
            <p>Full blood counts were taken prior to procedure and thereafter at 12, 24, 36, 72-hours post-operatively. Total blood loss was calculated considering body surface area, sex-adjusted estimated blood volume, initial hematocrit level and 72-hour post-operative hematocrit level. Study protocol has been approved by the Ethical Committee, Faculty of Medicine, Universitas Indonesia (No.89/H2.F1/ETIK/2013).</p>
            <p>We compiled a chart
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-15">15</xref>,
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-16">16</xref>
                </sup> to assess total blood loss (TBL) to include sex, body surface area, shifting of hematocrit level and amount of blood transfused, as shown in 
                <xref ref-type="table" rid="T1">Table 1</xref>.</p>
            <table-wrap id="T1" orientation="portrait" position="anchor">
                <label>Table 1. </label>
                <caption>
                    <title>Operational definition.</title>
                </caption>
                <table content-type="article-table" frame="hsides">
                    <thead>
                        <tr>
                            <th align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Variable</th>
                            <th align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Formula</th>
                        </tr>
                    </thead>
                    <tbody>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Body Surface Area (m
                                <sup>2</sup>)
                                <sup>
                                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-15">15</xref>
                                </sup>
				</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.0235 &#x00d7; [Height (cm)]
                                <sup>0.42246</sup> &#x00d7; [BW (kg)]
                                <sup>0.51456</sup>
                            </td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="2">Estimated Blood Volume (mL)
                                <sup>
                                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-15">15</xref>
                                </sup>
				</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Female: [Body Surface Area (m
                                <sup>2</sup>)] &#x00d7; 2430</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Male: [Body Surface Area (m
                                <sup>2</sup>)] &#x00d7; 2530</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Initial RBC (mL)
                                <sup>
                                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-15">15</xref>
                                </sup>
				</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">[Estimated Blood Volume (mL)] &#x00d7; [Initial Hematocrit level 24-hour pre-op (%)]</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Final RBC (mL)
                                <sup>
                                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-15">15</xref>
                                </sup>
				</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">[Estimated Blood Volume (mL)] &#x00d7;[Final Hematocrit level 72-hour post-op (%)]</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Uncompensated RBC Loss (mL)
                                <sup>
                                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-15">15</xref>
                                </sup>
				</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">[Initial RBC (mL)] &#x2013; [Final RBC (mL)]</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Compensated RBC Loss (mL)
                                <sup>
                                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-15">15</xref>
                                </sup>
				</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">[Amount of RBC transfused from intra-op to 72-hour post-op]</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Total RBC Loss (mL)
                                <sup>
                                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-15">15</xref>
                                </sup>
				</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">[Uncompensated RBC Loss (mL)] + [Compensated RBC Loss (mL)]</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Total Blood Loss (mL)
                                <sup>
                                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-16">16</xref>
                                </sup>
				</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">
                                <inline-formula> 
                                    <mml:math display="inline" id="math1">
                                        <mml:mrow>
                                            <mml:mfrac>
                                                <mml:mrow>
                                                    <mml:mo stretchy="false">[</mml:mo>
                                                    <mml:mtext>Total</mml:mtext>
                                                    <mml:mspace width="0.2em"/>
                                                    <mml:mtext>RBC</mml:mtext>
                                                    <mml:mspace width="0.2em"/>
                                                    <mml:mtext>Loss</mml:mtext>
                                                    <mml:mspace width="0.2em"/>
                                                    <mml:mo stretchy="false">(</mml:mo>
                                                    <mml:mtext>mL</mml:mtext>
                                                    <mml:mo stretchy="false">)</mml:mo>
                                                    <mml:mo stretchy="false">]</mml:mo>
                                                </mml:mrow>
                                                <mml:mrow>
                                                    <mml:mo stretchy="false">[</mml:mo>
                                                    <mml:mn>1</mml:mn>
                                                    <mml:mo>/</mml:mo>
                                                    <mml:mn>2</mml:mn>
                                                    <mml:mo>&#x00d7;</mml:mo>
                                                    <mml:mo stretchy="false">(</mml:mo>
                                                    <mml:mtext>Hematocrit</mml:mtext>
                                                    <mml:mspace width="0.2em"/>
                                                    <mml:mn>24-</mml:mn>
                                                    <mml:mtext>hour</mml:mtext>
                                                    <mml:mspace width="0.2em"/>
                                                    <mml:mtext>pre-op</mml:mtext>
                                                    <mml:mo>+</mml:mo>
                                                    <mml:mtext>Hematocrit</mml:mtext>
                                                    <mml:mspace width="0.2em"/>
                                                    <mml:mn>72-</mml:mn>
                                                    <mml:mtext>hour</mml:mtext>
                                                    <mml:mspace width="0.2em"/>
                                                    <mml:mtext>post-op</mml:mtext>
                                                    <mml:mo stretchy="false">)</mml:mo>
                                                    <mml:mo stretchy="false">]</mml:mo>
                                                </mml:mrow>
                                            </mml:mfrac>
                                        </mml:mrow>
                                    </mml:math>
                                </inline-formula>
                            </td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Cross match transfusion ratio/CT
                                <break/>ratio
                                <sup>
                                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-17">17</xref>
                                </sup>
				</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top">Amount of blood unit cross-matched : Amount of blood unit transfused</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Under-transfusion
                                <sup>
                                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-18">18</xref>
                                </sup>
				</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Defined as blood volume transfused deficit less than 15.0% of total blood loss (mL)</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Over-transfusion
                                <sup>
                                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-18">18</xref>
                                </sup>
				</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Defined as blood volume transfused excess greater than 15.0% of total blood loss (mL)</td>
                        </tr>
                    </tbody>
                </table>
                <table-wrap-foot>
                    <fn id="fn1">
                        <p>
                            <bold>Abbreviations:</bold> RBC = red blood cell, BW = body weight</p>
                    </fn>
                </table-wrap-foot>
            </table-wrap>
            <p>Bivariate analysis was done by correlating numerical variables with total blood loss, and associating categorical variables with perioperative blood transfusion amount. Those with significancy of &lt;0.25 were further analyzed with multivariate analysis of linier and logistic regression.</p>
        </sec>
        <sec sec-type="results">
            <title>Results</title>
            <p>A total of 85 PCNL procedures were performed on 85 patients (46 males, 39 females) who completed this study, thus gave statistical power of 0.8. The average age was 50.96 &#x00b1; 11.87 years. Most of the patients complained of flank pain at initial presentation (
                <xref ref-type="table" rid="T2">Table 2</xref>). Staghorn calculi were found in 50.6% patients.</p>
            <table-wrap id="T2" orientation="portrait" position="anchor">
                <label>Table 2. </label>
                <caption>
                    <title>Patient Characteristics (n=85).</title>
                </caption>
                <table content-type="article-table" frame="hsides">
                    <thead>
                        <tr>
                            <th colspan="2" rowspan="1">Variable</th>
                            <th colspan="2" rowspan="1">Number (Percentages)</th>
                        </tr>
                    </thead>
                    <tbody>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="2">Sex</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Male</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">46 (54.1%)</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Female</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">39 (45.9%)</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="9">Symptoms</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Renal colic</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">17 (20.2%)</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Flank pain</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">76 (89.3%)</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Passing stone</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">29 (34.5%)</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Sandy urination</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">10 (11.9%)</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Haematuria</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">18 (21.4%)</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Dysuria</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">3 (3.6%)</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Fever</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">4 (4.8%)</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Urinary retention</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">2 (2.4%)</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Intermittency</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">2 (2.4%)</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="2">Stone Side</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Right</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">50 (59.0%)</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Left</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">35 (41.0%)</td>
                        </tr>
                    </tbody>
                </table>
            </table-wrap>
            <p>The mean hematocrit drop was 5.20 &#x00b1; 3.36%. Average total blood loss was 560.92 &#x00b1; 428.43 mL with median 511.46 (95% CI: 0.00-1974.84) mL. There were two cases with pelvicalyceal laceration, one with massive hemorrhage (perioperative blood loss 1974.84 mL). There was no significant difference of total blood loss between the cases performed by the two PCNL surgeons (p&gt;0.05).</p>
            <p>Stepwise multivariate regression analysis which included variables with p-value &lt; 0.25 (
                <xref ref-type="table" rid="T3">Table 3</xref>) showed that stone burden was the most influential predictor of blood loss (p=0.037). Meanwhile operative time was found not associated (p-value &gt;0.05) with blood loss. We assessed total blood loss (in mL) as -153.379 + 0.229 &#x00d7; stone burden (mm
                <sup>2</sup>) + 0.203 &#x00d7; serum hematocrit baseline (%). This means it is predicted that a kidney stone patient with 1000 mm
                <sup>2</sup> stone burden and baseline hematocrit 40% will have 83.74 mL blood loss during PCNL procedure perioperative.</p>
            <table-wrap id="T3" orientation="portrait" position="anchor">
                <label>Table 3. </label>
                <caption>
                    <title>Bivariate analysis between related factors and total blood loss.</title>
                </caption>
                <table content-type="article-table" frame="hsides">
                    <thead>
                        <tr>
                            <th align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Variable</th>
                            <th align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">p-Value</th>
                            <th align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">R</th>
                        </tr>
                    </thead>
                    <tbody>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="left" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Stone burden**</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.067</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.200</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="left" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Number of stones**</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.380</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.096</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="left" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Serum creatinine baseline**</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.549</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.066</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="left" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Red blood cell count**</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.095</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.182</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="left" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Serum hematocrit baseline*</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.135</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.163</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="left" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Serum hemoglobin baseline**</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.501</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.074</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="left" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Body mass index**</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.298</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.114</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="left" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Age*</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.670</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">0.047</td>
                        </tr>
                    </tbody>
                </table>
                <table-wrap-foot>
                    <fn id="fn2">
                        <p>*Pearson analysis **Spearman analysis</p>
                    </fn>
                </table-wrap-foot>
            </table-wrap>
            <p>The average amount of blood units 435.29 &#x00b1; 114.13 mL was cross-matched for each procedure pre-operatively (
                <xref ref-type="table" rid="T4">Table 4</xref>). Nevertheless, 87.1% of patients did not receive blood transfusion perioperatively, thus yielding the blood transfusion rate as 12.9%. Blood transfusion was required by 3.5% patients intra-operatively, 7.1% post-operatively and 2.3% both intra and post-operatively. In total, the cross-matched transfusion ratio was 7.72. The average amount of blood transfused during PCNL procedure: 356.00 &#x00b1; 145.88 mL.</p>
            <table-wrap id="T4" orientation="portrait" position="anchor">
                <label>Table 4. </label>
                <caption>
                    <title>Blood transfusion pattern.</title>
                </caption>
                <table content-type="article-table" frame="hsides">
                    <thead>
                        <tr>
                            <th align="center" colspan="2" rowspan="1" valign="top">Blood Transfusion
                                <break/>Proportion (%)</th>
                            <th align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Average amount of
                                <break/>blood unit cross-
                                <break/>matched</th>
                            <th align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Average amount of blood
                                <break/>transfused (Intra-op &#x2013; 72-hour
                                <break/>post-op)</th>
                            <th align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top">&gt;Under-
                                <break/>transfusion (%)</th>
                            <th align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top">&gt;Over-
                                <break/>transfusion(%)</th>
                        </tr>
                    </thead>
                    <tbody>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">No transfusion</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">87.1%</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">435.29 &#x00b1; 114.13 mL</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">356.00 &#x00b1; 145.88 mL</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="4">0%</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="4">100%</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Intra-operative
                                <break/>transfusion</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">3.5%</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="2" rowspan="1">
					
                                <italic toggle="yes">
						
                                    <bold>Cross Match Transfusion Ratio</bold>
					</italic>
				</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Post-operative
                                <break/>transfusion</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">7.1%</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="2" rowspan="2">7.72</td>
                        </tr>
                        <tr>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">Both intra &amp;
                                <break/>post-operative
                                <break/>transfusion</td>
                            <td align="center" colspan="1" rowspan="1">2.3%</td>
                        </tr>
                    </tbody>
                </table>
            </table-wrap>
            <supplementary-material id="DS0" orientation="portrait" position="float" xlink:href="https://f1000researchdata.s3.amazonaws.com/datasets/8993/b3d26a77-9c06-438e-8e1d-5275811cd22e_Dataset1_table3_Bivariate_analysis_between_related_factors_and_total_blood_loss.csv">
                <label>Raw data for Table 3 of 'Blood loss predictive factors and transfusion practice during percutaneous nephrolithotomy of kidney stones'</label>
                <caption>
                    <p>The raw data of the bivariate analysis between related factors and total blood loss are provided.</p>
                </caption>
            </supplementary-material>
            <supplementary-material id="DS1" orientation="portrait" position="float" xlink:href="https://f1000researchdata.s3.amazonaws.com/datasets/8993/37842637-96fd-461f-9feb-fb7b811bd3f0_Dataset2_table4_Blood_transfusion_pattern.csv">
                <label>Raw data for Table 4 of 'Blood loss predictive factors and transfusion practice during percutaneous nephrolithotomy of kidney stones'</label>
                <caption>
                    <p>The raw data for &#x2018;Blood transfusion practice&#x2019; are provided.</p>
                </caption>
            </supplementary-material>
        </sec>
        <sec sec-type="discussion">
            <title>Discussion</title>
            <p>In this study we did not use conventional, visual estimated blood loss to determine hemorrhage due to high bias factors, subjectivity, persistence of dilution effect and poor accuracy
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-19">19</xref>&#x2013;
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-23">23</xref>
                </sup>. Laboratory parameters in our study were recorded until 72-hours post-operatively, in order to minimize intravenous hydration and retroperitoneal fluid absorption effects. We used the hematocrit level as the main parameter to determine blood loss rather than hemoglobin to avoid hemodilution effect
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-15">15</xref>,
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-24">24</xref>
                </sup>; Furthermore, the hematocrit level positively correlated with the total blood volume
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-25">25</xref>
                </sup>. It has been reported that also a center in Turkey applies a blood transfusion policy that depends on the hematocrit level (transfusion was indicated when hematocrit level was less than 30%)
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-14">14</xref>
                </sup>.
			</p>
            <p>Stone burden was the most influential predictive factor for blood loss during the PCNL procedure in this study, similar to other studies performed. A multivariate analysis showed that complete and partial staghorn calculi were associated with a greater blood loss than with the calyx stones
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-14">14</xref>
                </sup>. Other studies concluded that larger stone burdens
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-11">11</xref>
                </sup> or staghorn calculi
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-26">26</xref>
                </sup> required a greater amount of unit blood transfused during the PCNL procedure compared to the smaller stones. Greater hematocrit level changes in staghorn calculi were found during PCNL, while further multivariate tests concluded that staghorn calculi were associated with a greater amount of blood loss (OR 1.92) and a greater decrease in the hemoglobin level compared to non-staghorn cases
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-13">13</xref>
                </sup>. Prolonged and excessive intra-renal maneuver performed for large stone burdens was assumed to increase incidence of injury to renal vasculature
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-11">11</xref>
                </sup>.
			</p>
            <p>Our transfusion rate was similar to the one reported in a retrospective study from Pakistan showing an overall blood transfusion rate of 14.2% with one angioembolization performed to control hemorrhage
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-26">26</xref>
                </sup>. In our study, all cases presenting with massive hemorrhage could be managed conservatively. Lower blood transfusion rates were reported in two other studies from Pakistan, one study from United Kingdom and one study from the United States; these differences occurred due to the younger age group
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-27">27</xref>
                </sup>, supine position used
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-28">28</xref>
                </sup> and balloon dilatation
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-29">29</xref>,
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-30">30</xref>
                </sup>. A higher transfusion rate (23.8%) compared to our result was shown in a retrospective analysis. An aggressive approach by torqueing the rigid nephroscope to maximize stone clearance at one stage was explained
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-14">14</xref>
                </sup>.
			</p>
            <p>A precise estimation of surgical blood loss is essential in order to avoid excessive usage of blood units. Most of the previous studies emphasize the estimated blood loss rather than the objective prediction. Our calculation of total blood loss included perioperative factors: the patient&#x2019;s blood volume (based on sex, body weight and height), the number of red cell units transfused, the hematocrit changes, and the amount of hemodilution. To our knowledge, this is the first study that has applied a mathematical approach to predict blood loss during PCNL procedures. We did not include hydronephrosis grading, parenchymal thickness and stone composition to analyze the predictive factors of blood loss, due to the possible limitations relating to our study.</p>
        </sec>
        <sec sec-type="conclusions">
            <title>Conclusions</title>
            <p>Stone burden was the most influential PCNL blood loss predictive factor in our institution. We estimated that the amount of blood requested and cross-matched for PCNL is much greater than the actual blood loss. Our principle was proposed as a guidance to reduce any unnecessary costs and excessive requirements of blood units.</p>
        </sec>
        <sec>
            <title>Consent</title>
            <p>Written informed consent to participate in the study and publish clinical data was obtained by the patients.</p>
        </sec>
        <sec>
            <title>Data availability</title>
            <p>The data referenced by this article are under copyright with the following copyright statement: Copyright: &#x00ef;&#x00bf;&#x00bd; 2016 Syahputra FA et al.</p>
            <p>Data associated with the article are available under the terms of the Creative Commons Zero "No rights reserved" data waiver (CC0 1.0 Public domain dedication).
                <ext-link ext-link-type="uri" xlink:href="http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/"/>
            </p>
            <p>F1000Research: Dataset 1. Raw data for 
                <xref ref-type="table" rid="T3">Table 3</xref> of 'Blood loss predictive factors and transfusion practice during percutaneous nephrolithotomy of kidney stones', 
                <ext-link ext-link-type="uri" xlink:href="http://dx.doi.org/10.5256/f1000research.8993.d127629">10.5256/f1000research.8993.d127629</ext-link>
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-31">31</xref>
                </sup>
            </p>
            <p>F1000Research: Dataset 2. Raw data for 
                <xref ref-type="table" rid="T4">Table 4</xref> of 'Blood loss predictive factors and transfusion practice during percutaneous nephrolithotomy of kidney stones', 
                <ext-link ext-link-type="uri" xlink:href="http://dx.doi.org/10.5256/f1000research.8993.d127630">10.5256/f1000research.8993.d127630</ext-link>
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref-32">32</xref>
                </sup>
            </p>
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                    <article-title>Dataset 2 in: Blood loss predictive factors and transfusion practice during percutaneous nephrolithotomy of kidney stones: a prospective study.</article-title>
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                    <year>2016</year>.
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    <sub-article article-type="reviewer-report" id="report14725">
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            <article-id pub-id-type="doi">10.5256/f1000research.9674.r14725</article-id>
            <title-group>
                <article-title>Reviewer response for version 1</article-title>
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            <contrib-group>
                <contrib contrib-type="author">
                    <name>
                        <surname>Soebadi</surname>
                        <given-names>Doddy Musbadianto</given-names>
                    </name>
                    <xref ref-type="aff" rid="r14725a1">1</xref>
                    <role>Referee</role>
                    <uri content-type="orcid">https://orcid.org/0000-0003-0982-4383</uri>
                </contrib>
                <aff id="r14725a1">
                    <label>1</label>Department of Urology, Airlangga University, Surabaya, Indonesia</aff>
            </contrib-group>
            <author-notes>
                <fn fn-type="conflict">
                    <p>
                        <bold>Competing interests: </bold>No competing interests were disclosed.</p>
                </fn>
            </author-notes>
            <pub-date pub-type="epub">
                <day>12</day>
                <month>7</month>
                <year>2016</year>
            </pub-date>
            <permissions>
                <copyright-statement>Copyright: &#x00a9; 2016 Soebadi DM</copyright-statement>
                <copyright-year>2016</copyright-year>
                <license xlink:href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/">
                    <license-p>This is an open access peer review report distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution Licence, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original work is properly cited.</license-p>
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        <body>
            <p>This is a nice article concerning blood loss during percutaneous nephrolithotomy&#x00a0;(PCNL) procedures. We need these data to confirm that this procedure is safe to be done in a proper way.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p> The authors have meticulously analyzed and discussed the results.</p>
            <p>Reviewer Expertise:</p>
            <p>NA</p>
            <p>I confirm that I have read this submission and believe that I have an appropriate level of expertise to confirm that it is of an acceptable scientific standard.</p>
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    </sub-article>
    <sub-article article-type="reviewer-report" id="report14722">
        <front-stub>
            <article-id pub-id-type="doi">10.5256/f1000research.9674.r14722</article-id>
            <title-group>
                <article-title>Reviewer response for version 1</article-title>
            </title-group>
            <contrib-group>
                <contrib contrib-type="author">
                    <name>
                        <surname>Usawachintachit</surname>
                        <given-names>Manint</given-names>
                    </name>
                    <xref ref-type="aff" rid="r14722a1">1</xref>
                    <xref ref-type="aff" rid="r14722a2">2</xref>
                    <role>Referee</role>
                </contrib>
                <aff id="r14722a1">
                    <label>1</label>Department of Urology, University of California San Francisco, San Francisco, CA, USA</aff>
                <aff id="r14722a2">
                    <label>2</label>Division of Urology, Faculty of Medicine, Chulalongkorn University and King Chulalongkorn Memorial Hospital, The Thai Red Cross Society, Bangkok, Thailand</aff>
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            <author-notes>
                <fn fn-type="conflict">
                    <p>
                        <bold>Competing interests: </bold>No competing interests were disclosed.</p>
                </fn>
            </author-notes>
            <pub-date pub-type="epub">
                <day>11</day>
                <month>7</month>
                <year>2016</year>
            </pub-date>
            <permissions>
                <copyright-statement>Copyright: &#x00a9; 2016 Usawachintachit M</copyright-statement>
                <copyright-year>2016</copyright-year>
                <license xlink:href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/">
                    <license-p>This is an open access peer review report distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution Licence, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original work is properly cited.</license-p>
                </license>
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            <p>The authors present a study looking for predictive factor of blood loss following PCNL from a single institution for 85 patients over a 1-year period. It&#x2019;s interesting data in that while most relevant published studies were carried out retrospectively, this study is prospective. The primary endpoints were changes in hematocrit level and blood transfusion requirement over an early postoperative period. &#x00a0;&#x00a0;</p>
            <p> Overall, the paper was written concisely with a good methodology to track blood loss level. I would recommend some revision enumerated below: &#x00a0;</p>
            <p> 
                <bold>General comments</bold> 
                <list list-type="bullet">
                    <list-item>
                        <p>Besides grammatical errors, there are some misspelled words.</p>
                    </list-item>
                </list> &#x00a0;</p>
            <p> 
                <bold>Abstract</bold> 
                <list list-type="bullet">
                    <list-item>
                        <p>In the Result, a percentage of intra and postoperative transfusion should be 2.3%, not 23%.</p>
                    </list-item>
                    <list-item>
                        <p>It may be helpful to add a conclusion to&#x00a0;the abstract. &#x00a0;</p>
                    </list-item>
                </list> &#x00a0;</p>
            <p> 
                <bold>Introduction</bold> 
                <list list-type="bullet">
                    <list-item>
                        <p>No specific comments.</p>
                    </list-item>
                </list> &#x00a0;</p>
            <p> 
                <bold>Material and Methods</bold> 
                <list list-type="bullet">
                    <list-item>
                        <p>Were all patients included in this study consecutively?</p>
                    </list-item>
                    <list-item>
                        <p>How was stone burden assessed by means of imaging? Was it measured from CT-scan, plain film, or IVP?</p>
                    </list-item>
                    <list-item>
                        <p>How was a hematocrit level measured? Was it from a full blood draw or just fingertip needle sticks crude measurement? &#x00a0;</p>
                    </list-item>
                    <list-item>
                        <p>What was an algorithm of decision for perioperative blood transfusion in this study? Did the authors make a judgement based on a &#x201c;specific&#x201d; cutoff point of the most recent blood count (at 12, 24, 36, and 72 hours after PCNL) or make a decision subjectively? There should be a systematic methodology in this issue because it significantly affected transfusion rate and volume. &#x00a0;&#x00a0;&#x00a0;</p>
                    </list-item>
                </list> &#x00a0;</p>
            <p> 
                <bold>Results</bold> 
                <list list-type="bullet">
                    <list-item>
                        <p>How many patients were excluded from this study because of a conversion to open procedure? Were they converted from profound intraoperative bleeding?</p>
                    </list-item>
                    <list-item>
                        <p>What were a mean BMI of patients, and distribution of hydronephrosis in this series? The authors have mentioned in the Introduction that they were risk factors for blood transfusion flowing PCNL.</p>
                    </list-item>
                    <list-item>
                        <p>What was a distribution of renal access (upper/middle/lower/multi-tract) in this study? Did number of renal access tract affect blood loss or transfusion rate?</p>
                    </list-item>
                    <list-item>
                        <p>In a multivariate analysis of variables and blood loss, was stone burden (p = 0.037) the only one factor that remained statistically significant? This data was not shown in Table 3. What were other variables included in the multivariate analysis and why did the authors include operative time (p &gt; 0.05) in this model? &#x00a0;&#x00a0;</p>
                    </list-item>
                </list> &#x00a0;</p>
            <p> 
                <bold>Discussion</bold> 
                <list list-type="bullet">
                    <list-item>
                        <p>The authors mentioned a hematocrit cut-point of 30% from a Turkish study. Did the authors use the same cut-point for transfusion in this study?</p>
                    </list-item>
                    <list-item>
                        <p>Transfusion rate in this series was relatively high (12.9%) and the authors have demonstrated a significant correlation between stone burden and blood loss. Could this high transfusion rate cause by a larger stone burden? This data (mean stone burden) was not shown in the manuscript.</p>
                    </list-item>
                    <list-item>
                        <p>What is a clinical benefit of the mathematical equation to predict blood loss preoperatively? Could we use it to obviate blood request in some patients?</p>
                    </list-item>
                </list> &#x00a0;</p>
            <p> 
                <bold>Miscellaneous</bold> 
                <list list-type="bullet">
                    <list-item>
                        <p>In Table 2, it may be more understandable to order presenting symptoms by percentages.</p>
                    </list-item>
                    <list-item>
                        <p>In Dataset 1, why did the authors perform PCNL in some stones of 5 mm
                            <sup>2</sup> size. Is it more reasonable to treat them with ESWL or flexible ureteroscopy.&#x00a0;&#x00a0;</p>
                    </list-item>
                </list>
            </p>
            <p>Reviewer Expertise:</p>
            <p>NA</p>
            <p>I confirm that I have read this submission and believe that I have an appropriate level of expertise to confirm that it is of an acceptable scientific standard, however I have significant reservations, as outlined above.</p>
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    </sub-article>
    <sub-article article-type="reviewer-report" id="report14721">
        <front-stub>
            <article-id pub-id-type="doi">10.5256/f1000research.9674.r14721</article-id>
            <title-group>
                <article-title>Reviewer response for version 1</article-title>
            </title-group>
            <contrib-group>
                <contrib contrib-type="author">
                    <name>
                        <surname>Ather</surname>
                        <given-names>M. Hammad</given-names>
                    </name>
                    <xref ref-type="aff" rid="r14721a1">1</xref>
                    <role>Referee</role>
                    <uri content-type="orcid">https://orcid.org/0000-0002-7758-0395</uri>
                </contrib>
                <aff id="r14721a1">
                    <label>1</label>Section of Urology, Aga khan University, Karachi, Pakistan</aff>
            </contrib-group>
            <author-notes>
                <fn fn-type="conflict">
                    <p>
                        <bold>Competing interests: </bold>No competing interests were disclosed.</p>
                </fn>
            </author-notes>
            <pub-date pub-type="epub">
                <day>30</day>
                <month>6</month>
                <year>2016</year>
            </pub-date>
            <permissions>
                <copyright-statement>Copyright: &#x00a9; 2016 Ather MH</copyright-statement>
                <copyright-year>2016</copyright-year>
                <license xlink:href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/">
                    <license-p>This is an open access peer review report distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution Licence, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original work is properly cited.</license-p>
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            <p>Authors have assessed the predictive value of various parameters for transfusion during / following PCNL. It is an important area as bleeding and need for transfusion is still a major concern during PCNL. I read with interest the fact that the authors have performed all procedures under spinal anesthesia. Although it is feasible and has been reported in literature it is both cumbersome for patients, anesthetist and surgeon to perform this procedure in an awake patient. In addition to maintain level of spinal anesthesia to provide pain free procedure and yet not compromising ventilation in a spontaneously breathing patient is a difficult task. It is not clear from the methods described if the procedure was performed in prone or supine position. In the methods section authors have noted that "the procedure was randomly performed.....", I am not sure as to what the authors intended to mean. In addition in the methods section authors have noted that the "The procedure was completed when the patient was stone-free and any arising complications alleviated. " the meaning of this sentence is also not clear. In the results section authors have noted that "statistical power of 0.8 ", kindly clarify the sentence.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p> Authors noted stone burden as clinical (statistically significant) factor in predicting need for transfusion. This is conformed by many previous studies and authors conclusion does not surprise me.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p> In recent years many scoring systems have been developed to predict complexity of the procedure and stone free rate like STONE nephrolithomeetry score, Guys score etc. Authors should comment why they decided to use stone burden rather than these scores in predicting complexity level of the procedure and predicting need for transfusion.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p> A recent report by Un 
                <italic>et al.,</italic>&#x00a0;2015
                <sup>
                    <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="rep-ref-14721-1">1</xref>
                </sup>&#x00a0;noted transfusion requirement of ~10% and need for embolization in &lt;1% in over 1400 PCNL over a 7 years period.</p>
            <p>Reviewer Expertise:</p>
            <p>NA</p>
            <p>I confirm that I have read this submission and believe that I have an appropriate level of expertise to confirm that it is of an acceptable scientific standard, however I have significant reservations, as outlined above.</p>
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